| Competition is Good |
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| Written by Kevin Sandlin | |
| Thursday, 04 September 2008 | |
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Competition is good. It brings out the best in the competitors, and forces us to alter our plans, change our game, work a little harder, change direction, and constantly keep an eye on the other guy. So when news came out from Cisco that they were offering a certification called "CCNA-Wireless", naturally, we took notice.
We take notice of this new designation for several reasons. First, Cisco is the leader in enterprise networking certifications. I don't think anyone can dispute that, and there's no need to launch into an essay on the historic value of certifications starting with "CC". Second, Cisco has danced all around the WLAN space, but never jumped in, until now...sort of. Third, Cisco is a huge supporter of CWNP certifications, boasting hundreds of CWNP certified employees, and employing more CWNEs than any other company. So, we took notice. Now we're giving you some info so that when you take notice, you will do so fully educated. I took this exam earlier today. What you're about to get is my opinion and some basic facts about this new CCNA-Wireless exam (640-721). First, some facts. - Cisco starts off bad. It clearly says here that there are 65 questions on this exam. There are 80. No big deal from my perspective. I was there to evaluate. But if some newbie Cisco guy got all Devinator on this exam, he or she would be in for a little surprise less than one second into the exam. - You get your standard 90 minutes to take the exam. Knowing what you now know about the number of questions, that's not much in the minutes-per-question category. - I wanted to see how much Cisco kool-aid was on the exam versus how much general 802.11 WLAN technology. In other words, how much does this exam encroach on CWNA territory? I'm not going to give actual numbers here, though I did keep a thorough count, but I can tell you that this exam is weighted heavily (>60%) on the kool-aid side. What does that mean? It means, if you take this exam, you had better know Cisco IOS CLI commands, exact part numbers of Cisco WLAN gear, differences in versions of controller, client, and CCX software revs, and specifically how Cisco equipment reacts to certain settings. That's kool-aid. And please let me be clear about this: Cisco is right to put tons of kool-aid into their exams. Why wouldn't they? If you want to call yourself an expert on Cisco WLAN gear, you had better know how to use it, and that means knowing the stuff I just mentioned. - For the remaining non-kool-aid topics, I estimate that perhaps 2/3 of it would fit somewhere into CWNA, and 1/3 is what we would teach in CWSP. ETSI and FCC get equal time. Bluetooth makes an appearance. And Cisco has invented a term that I've never heard in my 8 years in the WLAN space: "fading". They tried to confuse me with some language that sounded like multipath and Free Space Path Loss, but I was on to them. I'm sure I missed the question, though, since I have no idea what Cisco means by "fading". - If you don't understand Management Frame Protection as a serious Cisco security mechanism, you just missed 5 questions. - Speaking of WLAN security, Cisco and CWNP disagree a little on the definition of "basic" WLAN security. Is intimate knowledge of the 4-way handshake and CCKM "basic"? - Not a single picture, diagram, or other entertaining media to keep me interested, other than the "matching" questions. Just multiple choice and multiple answer questions. Like we here at CWNP do, Cisco tells you how many answers to choose. And, like we DON'T here at CWNP, Cisco does NOT allow you to go back to previous questions. Those are most of the facts. Here is my opinion. Please remember that I am biased, and that I am not "the job". I don't install, secure, or otherwise work on WLANs for a living. I leave that to folks like Devin, Joel, and others. Also, remember that I was here to evaluate potential competition, not earn the next on my short list of certs. It was a good exam. The Exam Topics are accurate. No surprises. It is obviously Cisco centric, as it should be. It encroaches on CWNA territory very little. Which leads me to my conclusion about "CCNA - Wireless": If you are a Cisco shop or a Cisco partner and you concentrate most of your day on Cisco WLAN stuff, you should get this cert, but you should get CWNA first. Why? Because far more than half of the topics on which you will be tested to earn this cert are based on the foundational concepts taught as part of the CWNA curriculum. Learn 802.11 technologies first, via CWNA/CWSP, and then pick the vendor(s) you want to be large in. Was it a hard exam? Well, before I answer, consider this: I prepped for exactly zero minutes. Yup, went in cold turkey. I don't do this job. The extent of my WLAN OTJ experience consists of fine-tuning my Linksys MIMO home router. I have never programmed a Cisco AP, let alone a controller. I wouldn't know Cisco IOS if my wife served it to me for dinner. It's hard, if you are not very familiar with Cisco WLAN gear. I got smoked on the "Operate basic WCS" topics. Not surprising, considering I've never seen a Cisco WCS. It's hard if you are not CWNA or CWSP level. But that's not how we view CCNA-Wireless. This new designation from Cisco sits in our same market space, and competes for what we non-IT types call "share of wallet", but CCNA-Wireless is a true vendor-specific certification. That means that it is beneficial to hold this certification if you are a Cisco shop or Cisco partner and if you already know the foundational elements of 802.11 enterprise WLAN technologies. That knowledge comes from CWNA. Still, competition is good. In this case, Cisco has told the market that the WLAN market is mature enough to support a mainline certification like CCNA. That's why Wall Street refers to Cisco Systems, Inc., as a bellweather. Comments (7)
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written by TripleL, September 05, 2008 ...
written by Hassan, September 06, 2008
Good one.
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written by Vinay, September 08, 2008
I agree with Kevin . If you know the technology well , it becomes very easy to learn the vendor specific things and that's where CWNP certs help a lot.
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written by shaks, September 09, 2008
cisco leads the way
http://www.mobile-computing-news.co.uk ...
written by kanwal, September 09, 2008
Fading means degradation in the signal due to space.
"Multipath fading" term is used sometimes together in wireless communications. ...
written by John Kiehnle, September 15, 2008
Of course It is Cisco hardware centric! That is the point of CISCO certifications... what good is the CWNA CWSP for working on Cisco gear if you do not understand the difference between their Wireless Lan Solution Engine (WLSE) and their Wireless Control System (WCS)... BTW, the first is their autonomous AP solution manager and the later is their lightweight AP solution (LWAP) managment system. Just as an added note... the CCNA, CCNP, CCDA, CCDP all cover "basic" wireless technology now. I know first hand... I teach it. As a parting comment I'll simply say I work with all the wireless technology, I personally engineered and setup several wireless ISP networks. My own network runs a Cisco 2106 Wireless Lan Controller (WLC) and several LW1130APs for a complete wireless mobility solution including handheld ip phone technology, In-band Network Admission Control (NAC) Intrusion Prevention Sensors (IPS) and a complete integrated monitoring solution (Cisco MARS). I feel it needs to be stated clearly that wireless networks "NEED" to go beyond simply being wireless! Is there any other vendor that offers a complete fully integrated solution such as this?
kind regards, jk ... written by Shawn Jackman, CWNE #54, September 26, 2008
I have had to take the Cisco Adv Wireless exams previously for my employer (for discount purposes primarily). I will tell you that I was really disappointed. It was full of mistakes (typos and really awful questions). Their online curriculum (40 hours of it if I remember right) only covered about 50% of the actual exam questions. It provided little to no value in my profession and OTJ tasks. In short, if you don't need this for partner discounts, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
I'm pleased to hear that they took a new approach and (hopefully) learned from their mistakes. It sounds like it. They have an actual book to study from now. What a concept! Like I'm sure many of you, I have several of Cisco's certifications and I do value them greatly for their OTJ and educational value. As far as wireless, CWNP has had some of the biggest impact to my job and academic background on the 802.11 standard. Vendor details change from year-to-year and is simply maintenance. Anything focused on the standard itself allows you to deal with any vendor's product and is something you'll ALWAYS have with you. To reinforce, I highly endorse Kevin's comments about the value of the CWNA and CWSP and of course the CWNE. You can leverage these certifications for vendor neutral certifications like Aruba, Cisco and others. In fact, I commend Aruba for requiring CWNP's certifications in order to obtain their vendor-specific advanced certifications. That says to me that they want you to understand the basics of RF and the 802.11 protocol in order to tap into their implementation of it. Hmmmm, perhaps something other vendors might want to consider... Write comment
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When I took my telecommunications courses many years ago, we were taught about fading. I think that you can call it distortion of a signal through a medium (in the case of wireless air). There is a nice wiki article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fading
Informative article. Thanks.