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The Price of Education - A Follow-Up PDF Print
Written by Devin Akin   
Monday, 01 September 2008

Wow.  I heard the mother of all Wi-Fi horror stories today.  Believe me, I've heard some doosies in my time, but this one is the worst.  Fortunately for the customer, it has a good ending.

My good friend, and CWNA, Jeff works for a company that manufacturers an application that uses Wi-Fi as a transport.  Like other such applications (Wi-Fi, RTLS, etc), this application depends on having a dependable and somewhat-optimized Wi-Fi infrastructure in place.  And so the story begins...

 

Jeff was called by the customer, a very large distributor in NJ, to come troubleshoot a problem with his application.  His client devices were intermittently disappearing from the server application's monitoring application, and he had to investigate why.  Being a CWNA, his first instinct was to take a quick look at the Wi-Fi environment and to ask a few questions of the network administrators.  "Roughly 1 million square feet, 240 APs" they said.

In utter disbelief, he fired up his analyzer to find that no matter where he ventured inside the facility, he had a loud signal from over 40 APs.  He asked for the site survey document immediately.  The network administrators obliged, and pointed out the nice round circles every few feet along every aisle where the site surveying company had indicated the APs should go.  Jeff lost it.  He was just angry at how anyone could sleep at night having done this to their customer.

Jeff proceeded to power down 205 of the 240 APs and to reassign a few channels.  Voila - perfect connectivity for everyone, including his application, with only 35 APs.  Up until then, only handheld scanners moving minimal data had ever had to work over this WLAN, so nobody had noticed how horrible it was, and the company performing the site survey got away with the technical equivalent of highway robbery.  If the story ended here, you'd just have to cry, but, as it turns out, it doesn't...but there's some points I want to make before I give you the sorta-happy ending.

In addition to the the outrageous cost of an extra 205 APs, 205 extra Cat5e data cable runs, 205 extra PoE 10/100 Ethernet switch ports, 205 AP licenses for the controllers, the extra controllers themselves, and the labor and materials it cost to hang 205 extra APs, there was the time and travel expense for Jeff to come out to troubleshoot and fix the issue, the time it will take to take the 205 APs down, and the time and expense it will take to file a lawsuit against the morons who sold 7 times too many APs to the customer.  Wow.  Jeff estimated that the entire project end-to-end should've cost less than $100k to start with, but instead was likely somewhere $500k-600k because of this unscrupulous site surveying company.  I would venture to say that if the customer had one moderately-experienced CWNA on staff, this catastrophe would've been prevented.

Now for the grand finale.  Calling Jeff to come fix this "problem with his application" (which of course turned out to not be his application at all), was just fluke timing.  The customer had rolled out the WLAN at this location as the first of many locations.  They were getting ready to cookie-cutter this same scenario to many other locations.  Now, instead of buying literally hundreds more APs that they don't need from the same survey company, they are installing the 205 "extra" APs they were already sold at the other locations, that I'm sure will be surveyed by someone other than the company that sold them the 240 APs.  Jeff's customer got lucky.  Is education worth the money?  You decide.
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written by kanwal, September 02, 2008
Good story
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written by Brett C, September 04, 2008
I'm betting Jeff is wishing he was an independent consultant right about now... that kind of work and cost savings is incredible. I have seen where dense AP deployments are done, but the APs' power is turned down to create smaller cell sizes. It sounds like in this case they were left at a default level, and a client would see too many opportunities to roam with the flux in signals.

...ouch.
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written by Howard P, September 04, 2008
I've seen this happen a few times. We don't know however, what the client's instructions to the surveyer were. Did they originally specify, say 150 clients will be connecting in this room etc? Without that info (the original scope) we can't be 100% critical of the surveyer.
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written by Devin Akin, September 05, 2008
I hear what you're saying, but I can't imagine any scenario where it would be OK to have a client hear 40 APs loud-and-clear. That violates just about every "best practice" the industry has to offer. Given that a voice-based application was a primary application for this environment (that was known by the surveyor), I'm completely shocked at this scenario. I've recently heard that Jeff's customer has hired an experienced site survey company to do future work, so hopefully they won't have these problems again...but, given that there's currently no "standard" for site surveying, you never know...
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written by .., September 07, 2008
sometime environment need to be count in as well for AP being installed.. if there is a lot of corner for the building with THICK wall i do believe we need to install quite a few of AP if the customer insist.
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written by KRP, September 24, 2008
There is NO excuse for this type of work! Why/how can anyone even 'hint' there might be a reason other than pure greed on this surveyor's design.

Oh, there is the 'stupidity' - I'll be a bit softer... 'ignorant' and that's not a legitimate excuse.

I have seen this over and over in my career... Sooooo many people out doing survey's don't have a clue of how 802.11 really works...

If you don't understand what you are doing... get someone who does. This is simple business ethics!
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written by EMM, September 30, 2008
Devin,

Do you know if they had uniform AP-AP spacing, and if so, what it was? I am trying to understand, from an RF standpoint, the optimal spacing between AP's and it looks to me like around 100-120 feet should be about right, to provide approximately neg 70 dBm for Voice and Data. Is this about right?
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written by Devin Akin, September 30, 2008
Most manufacturer publishes this information in their Deployment Best Practices documents. For example, Cisco says, on page 3-12 of their Mobility Design guide 120-130 linear feet is the rule of thumb.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Mobility/emob41dg/eMob4.1.pdf

I don't have this information for Jeff's customer.

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