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badger11



Joined: 23 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: 03-18-05 08:00 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

compughter, just curious as to what experience you have. You do not walk into an 85k a year job by just obtaining a couple of certs.
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Compughter

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Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Hagerstown, MD

PostPosted: 03-18-05 08:51 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are right! I spent over 20 years in the military.
I just got out, and took the CWNA /CWSP exams in time for this current position. I used that as my bait for the employers.

send out your resume with CWNA/CWSP up top and link them to the CWNP page...it will work.

But for the record...

Most of my time was in tactical satellite systems. Deploying multichannel microwave systems,designing and planning the networks. So RF is not a hard thing for me. Just got to get this IT terminology in my ex-military mind. I took courses on Cisco Routers and other networking equipment, and know a bit about them ..I can handle my own, as I took the A+ computer course last year . Never went for any of these certs. I considered them, in the military you don't need certs.

I did a lot of online correspondence IT courses through a program called SMARTFORCE the past three years, since this happened, as in the military...you move up and your experience becomes supervising people. I was not as technically involved with equipment after my 10th year in the Army. I became a teacher, trainer and supporter , motivator, mentor of Soldiers. Less hands on more instructing, groomng future leaders.

That is one of the things that got me hired, and a good salary. Being able to deal with people .

I supervise no one today ,and yes I earn that amount, honestly.

So there you have it, I have some experience, just not as technical as some might have over the past 20 years who have lived with the gadgets in the IT world.
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badger11



Joined: 23 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: 03-18-05 09:34 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, congrats to you. After 20 years in the service you deserve to earn a good living. Having RF experience most likely helped you out alot.

I have the CWNA, CWSP as well as cisco certs and experience. Several months ago I posted my resume on monster.com etc... and did not get one response for wireless networking. Just cisco networking types of positions. I have not given up on working within th e wireless field though. In a couple of weeks I am schedualed to take the CWAP exam. I am hoping that is the ticket for admission into a wireless networking position. Wireless is new and exciting.
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Compughter

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Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Hagerstown, MD

PostPosted: 03-18-05 09:50 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks,

badger11, where are you located at? I can do some researching and see what is available in your area ? You earned the certs , now its time to put them to work.

Don't let these career sites defeat you. Get in your phone book and or google search for wireless lan companies in your area. Call or email them about positions.

ALCON,

When you search , use careerbuilder/ monster /hotjobs at yahoo, not looking soley for CWNP , I type in WLAN, wireless lan , wireless site survey., 802.11 .wireless security, wireless architect,

Use google to find wireless hotspots around who might know somebody who needs your skill.


I know this is optimistic , ...reality check, there are disappointments, but NEVER QUIT!
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badger11



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PostPosted: 03-18-05 10:56 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I have tried all of that. I also went to symbols website and a few others and e-mailed their integrators and Cisco's integrators in my area and out of my area with no results. It seems that wireless is growing fast but not fast enough for companies to hire someone with just certs and no wireless experience at this time.

I have yet to give up because I know the value of what I have learned. If I had given up I would not be studying for the cwap exam. It is just a matter of time till I get my feet wet in wireless and then everyone will want me.

Cheers!!!
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Compughter

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Location: Hagerstown, MD

PostPosted: 03-19-05 12:27 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

badger11,
Yes,

I did the same thing with those same type of companies. I got the same results. It seemed to me they would need more people due to the increasing demand for WLANs?

Regardless, I was blessed with this job and am thankful to Planet3 for their vision. I thank the people at the company for picking me up and letting me grow.


You will be in DEMAND mark my word, you advertised your availability and willingness. That is key!

Double Cheers!!!
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Smith Joseph Arulanandam



Joined: 26 Feb 2005
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Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: 03-19-05 05:32 AM    Post subject: Hope CWSP works in Toronto, as well! Reply with quote

Hi

It's quite interesting to read your comments about how to get job in WLAN industry. And it is quite obvious that the importance of WLAN is much more than to give up searching for job in that field.

I hope someday Toronto city will soon buzz with more hotspots, WLAN implementations, building to building wireless connectivity, and so on.... and hopefully guys like me here, with CCNA, CWNA, CWSP (pursuing now), will have a good chance to shine in this field.

Thanks for all encouraging words!

SMITH JOSPEH ARULANANDAM
Toronto
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scottwifi



Joined: 15 Feb 2005
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Location: Arlington Virginia

PostPosted: 04-03-05 04:53 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Criss had mentioned wireless is growing and it is all about positioning yourself for the future.

Thats it in a nutshell!
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k7leetha



Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: 04-06-05 05:08 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just figured I would add my 2 cents.

I live in a county with very few to zero new tech jobs. I just graduated college 2 years ago. I submitted my resume to a college for a position as a wireless administrator. I have an on-site interview next week for the position. My certifications were brought up durring the phone interview.

I live in a county with plenty of people who have been in the business longer than I have. I was told they had phone interviewed others for the position as well.

I know for sure that without the CWNA and CWSP certs they would have thrown my resume to the wayside.

Thanks Planet3 for helping me get a foot in the door of an extremely competative market.
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tdennehy



Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 22

PostPosted: 11-07-09 01:35 AM    Post subject: My two cents .. Reply with quote

I am a CCNP and CCDP, and have been for many years. I passed the CWNA last year and the CWSP this year, simply because I am passionate about my work. I was in the Navy a long time ago where I learned about RF and have been fascinated ever since.

When I passed the exam (that I did entirely on my own) and my employer didn't even recognize it. I'm the Wireless Network Engineer at a university with over 25,000 students.

I do know how you feel. I was expecting a "congratulations" or something. Maybe a "good job", but it didn't happen.

So I have thrown my resume out on Careerbuilder and Monster, and have only come up with contractor positions around the beltway of DC. Not something I'm interested in.

So, I know how you feel. I may start studying for the CWNE in my "spare time" and see if that gets me anywhere.....



"I have the CWNA, CWSP as well as cisco certs and experience. Several months ago I posted my resume on monster.com etc... and did not get one response for wireless networking. Just cisco networking types of positions. I have not given up on working within th e wireless field though. In a couple of weeks I am schedualed to take the CWAP exam. I am hoping that is the ticket for admission into a wireless networking position. Wireless is new and exciting.[/quote]"
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BruceGA



Joined: 05 Mar 2008
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Location: Albany, GA

PostPosted: 11-10-09 12:05 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

What equipment do you use? Sounds like you have a large network. Sometimes it helps to shine a light on what you do and the importance of it. As everyone knows the job market is tough so if you like where you are it might be in your interest to invest sometime in self promotion. You might have to get creative on how to get the spot light pointed in your direction. Like you might try to publish an article on something about your network and highlight its benifits to your users.

BruceGA
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tdennehy



Joined: 26 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: 11-10-09 02:34 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're a cisco shop - two WiSM farms with four blades each, 1000+ access points divided amongst 77 buildings. We have location appliances, 1232s, 1242s, 1252 & 1142s.

Cisco and AirMagnet wanted to write a story on us and our general counsel said it is not allowed. Bummer, huh?

I've started posting my resume in a few places - surely I'll stumble across someplace looking for a CWSP/CCNP.
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