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  • Are either of the mesh routers, Eero or Orbi, Wi-Fi Certfied ?

    I cannot find a certificate mentioned on either of their websites.

    Wondering about their rationale for this - are they planning on it ?

  • Wi-FI Alliance certifications can be searched on https://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-results?sort_by=default&sort_order=desc I couldn't find products for either vendor

  • Mike,

    Thanks for taking the time to reply.

    I'm well acquainted with that resource as I was a rep to the WFA for several years with my previous employer.

    I think I've answered this question, at least to my own satisfaction:   Both of these devices are MESH devices and there is no real IEEE 802.11 MESH spec, or at least one that is not proprietary, hence there is nothing the WFA can concretely test against.

    So no WFA certifications !

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    It is the case that some companies are not "bothering" to get a WFA cert because the radio chip set in their product meets the specifications, and are likely certified, but they don't want to go through the cost and difficulties of getting their own devices certified.  So as far as  a user is concerned, it works, just maybe not optimally.   I'm pretty sure this is a large issue for the WFA internally from a $$ perspective. 

    When the WFA first started, very few devices were compatible.   They've almost done too well, for their own good.

    In addition, changes to the WFA's own testing procedures involving high performance requirements have also made it harder for some devices to pass the tests.   Some products are so inherently slow,  cpu wise,  that they can't even count the number of packets being sent to them  by the WFA test engine, much less process them correctly.   

    Upgrading a CPU is often unnecessary for the primary function of a device.   Speeding it up, just to pass someone else's (i.e. WFA) test probably irks a lot of companies.

    So, if you have a steady but slow device, your users may think everything is fine, but it won't pass the WFA test requirements.   There may be an overabundance of retries going on, but most users (especially those at home) will never know it.

  • The WFA has recently announced their EasyMesh Certification.

    https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-easymesh

    Neither Eero nor Orbi have this certification, yet.

    It is unclear if either is pursuing the cert as each their own proprietary solution.

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